As usual the staff very helpful and friendly also explained everything in detail
Stephen, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
I live a few miles from South Godstone and public transport is not frequent, so I was vey grateful that John made arrangements so that I didn't have to wait around for a couple of hours or more. Thank you, John, and thanks to Tony, and to the guys ho did the work.
Margaret, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Good communication and staff service helpful And professional great team at Folkestone
Mark, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Quick, efficient and very competitive pricing. Trustworthy and honest.
Raymond, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Bromley
The staff were very friendly and the service was excellent!
Jo, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
As a long term returning customer to the Oxted branch i am always happy with the team here, efficient, helpful and above all honest in their approach and pricing of any work on any car i have had work done on here. the Oxted team are an asset to the PTA brand
Andrew, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
The staff at PTA Oxted are really friendly and helpful going above and beyond! They are extremely efficient and accommodating! I have moved away but still travel to use PTA Oxted!
Samantha, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
I have been using PTA Garage Services in South Godstone for four years now and always happy with that service as even when they are really busy, which they are most of the time they still help out to fit me in where they can. Thank you
Emma, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Top drawer as always
Richard, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Always helpful, reliable and fair - so I will always keep coming back,
Andrew, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Been using PTA for many years. Always friendly helpful service.
MARTIN, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Very professional service. On arrival I was greeted with a smile and the receptionist gave me all the information I required without even asking and as promised she called me when car was ready for collection. Can’t ask for anymore. Thank you
paul, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Please clarify brake fluid refill - what is that all about. How do i know if it needs doing? Otherwise fantastic same day local service was exactly what i was looking for.
Sudip, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
The lady on reception explained everything in full and kept me updated on the progress of my MOT and service.
Excellent as always!
STEPHEN, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Jon keeps me well informed with progress and is very helpful and friendly. The experience is always good. I wish other contractors I had to deal with in my normal profession were as good. A pleasure to deal. Thank you Jeff Banks. Ps - All my family use this Godstone PTA Garage.
jeff, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Always reliable.
Robert, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Staff are always friendly and super helpful.
Rhys, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
I asked for the car to be ready by 2pm and it was ready for collection well before that which was very helpful
Nicola, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Always amazing. Friendly, helpful and knowledgable.
Sarah, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Very friendly service and really helpful with a few questions that I had, thank you I will be using PTA for the next service.
John-Paul, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Very prompt and pleasant experience
Christopher, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
The staff really friendly and helpful.
Timea, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Always a good reliable service
Erin, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
The team are always obliging and helpful.
Rowena, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
All of the staff are so helpful and honest. It's why I choose to travel to PTA Shirley when I live right near PTA Bromley. The service is far better.
Pippa, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Friendly helpful
Alan, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Always a pleasure
STUART, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Always a pleasure
STUART, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA has always been a fantastic garage. Great prices, great service! Highly recommend!
Samantha, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Very helpful and great service
Tony, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
John and his team were extremely helpful as they always are whenever I use their services
Graham, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Very friendly and quick
Jeanne, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Again, very good service and very helpful and friendly staff.No problem too much and will go out of there way to help.
Stephen, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Always a friendly and helpful.
Tim, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Service was great, staff extremely helpful. I normally go to the oxted PTA but I will now attend Edenbridge as closer to my home. I waited whilst my MOT was done, very efficient and friendly staff.
Stacey, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Watton
Nothing, excellent service. Will be returning for a service on my car and van.
COLIN, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Always great service and reasonable prices.
Samantha, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Great customer service and I felt that my custom was appreciated. Would use again.
Stephen, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Always a good friendly service
Neil, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Love PTA Oxted. Always friendly always helpful. Tell you if additional work needs doing and how much it is likely to be.
Won't go anywhere else.
HELENA, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Excellent service from John and the team.. Nothing is too much trouble, even dropped me to work and popped the car back to me when the work was completed.. I have no hesitation in recommending PTA South Godstone to friends and family.. Friendly, reliable service and good value.. Many thanks again..
James, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Everything is explained really well.
Suzanne, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Wouldn’t go anywhere else, family have been using them for years. Always trust what they are say and never feel like you are being ripped off. Always excellent service from them, thank you!
Samantha, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Have used PTA Bromley for years , trusted and reliable.
Eve, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Very friendly and efficient staff.
David, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Friendly and efficient as always
Patricia, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
The staff are really straight forward and helpful. They always recommend where you can take your car if they can’t fix the problem. I feel they genuinely want to do the best for you and have a good follow up service. I only ever go to Folkestone- a great bunch of friendly people who shine TEAM. ✊
Joseph, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Very friendly staff and brilliant service.
Clare, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Everything. Brilliant customer service.
Michelle, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Efficient & friendly
James, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Excellent service
Clair, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
I am very pleased with the friendly, professional service I have received at PTA Folkestone, both at this year's MOT test and with work done in the past. The garage were good in carrying out a follow up check for me on an issue arising from this year's MOT test. PTA have been most satisfactory for me on both work done and pricing. I have given repeat custom here and have no reason for not recommending PTA Garage Services to others.
Laurence, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Local asset , keep doing what you are doing , because you do it very well , excellent helpful friendly staff. well done
James, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Very friendly and efficient staff.
Nicholas, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Sean and his team are always friendly, efficient and HONEST
paul, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Great service and really helpful friendly guys. Not much you could improve on to be honest
Allison, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Easy to book car in on line,friendly staff and car always ready on time,and really helpful with advice.
claire, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
I am suprised everytime I go here at how very honest and trustworthy this garage is, I don't think I would take my car anywhere else
Daniel, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
The service at this garage is always second to none. They go out of their way to be helpful and sort any problems out.
Laura, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Everything was excellent. Great team
Andrew, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Motorstore Oxted
I have always found the guys at Oxted very helpful and I have the sense that they talk to me honestly about my car, which is important.
John, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
The usual excellent service from John and his team.
Geoff, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
We have been using your garage for over 25 years we wouldn’t go anywhere else
Jeffery, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Excellent service as always.
Susan, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Great honest service
People you can trust
Timothy, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Keys were able to be left the night before the service making it easier to drop car off.
Daryl, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Courteous, efficient, professional and accommodating. Couldn't be more helpful.
Peter, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Always get work done promptly, always very friendly and accommodating. They also don't over charge and try to do work that doesn't need doing which I really appreciate. They have helped me several times over several years and I trust them to do good work for a fair price.
Dawn, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Friendly staff and pricing good
Tina, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Every time I come in everyone is very friendly and informative. Don't make me feel stupid and I never feel afraid to ask questions which they are very up front about. Never had a bad experience and car is always kept in good condition.
Isabel, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Always very professional, polite service.. Staff very friendly and helpful..
Marie Sandie, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Bromley
They are always honest and friendly.
Adam, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Excellent service and price as usual, plus the fact PTA at Hopcroft is very close and convenient to us.
David, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Very friendly service and my car was ready a couple of hours before it was meant to be. I always feel like the prices are very reasonable as well and I'm not being mugged off at all like some other garages.
Matthew, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
I've been to this branch for many years with different car's and all ways been treated with respect and met with friendly staff and explained plain and simple
Steven, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Just always find you very friendly and helpful.
Sheila, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Quick easy book service and thanks for fitting the new rear wiper blade I had on the front seat👍
mark, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
I asked if I could wait for my tyres to be fitted and they were done within 20 mins. Excellent service and friendly staff. Would definitely recommend.
Debbie, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Shirley
You can't improve on a quality garage, I wouldn't go anywhere else.
Richard, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Very pleased with the service and advice offered
angela, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Always a great experience - the team are clearly committed and a great job as ever
Mark, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Always friendly and helpful. All work carried out to a high standard and car cleaned inside and out which is much appreciated
Stephen, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Polite helpful explained everything well. Accommodating to drop off night before. Very satisfied with service given.
LUCY, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
It was very easy and convenient to book in for an MOT online. The customer service was very good, with great communication from the garage staff. The whole experience was simple and trouble free.
Robert, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Motorstore Oxted
They were obviously very busy this particular morning, yet reception appeared to be a place of calm and efficiency. Although I was slightly early, my car was quickly assigned to a mechanic for its MOT and was ready on time an hour later.
Colin, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Very good service as usual
David, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Watton
Friendly, polite, helpful and efficient.
Over the years I have always tried to avoid garages preferring mobile mechanics. When my latest mobile guy retired I tried PTA in Watton and they have been very good so far. The job is done well at a fair price so I intend to keep using them.
Phil, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Everyone is friendly, even though they are busy, great local business, love that I am able to book on line, I don't always have a signal to call at work or don't remember until I get home and then everywhere is closed for the day
Heather, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Very helpful
David, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Great friendly service you can trust and good price.
Jeannette, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
The guys always go above and beyond with anything they do for you. Excellent service from them all
julie, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Shirley
No improvement necessary - it’s perfect!
Graham, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Staff were really helpful ..
Jonathan, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Excellent service as usual. Really helpful & always willing to advise on things. Thoroughly recommend.
David, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
The staff at Hopcroft are always very friendly and helpful, that in itself is invaluable to any company
annie, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Motorstore Oxted
The team are friendly, genuine people who clearly care about their customers. There are no pushy sales tactics, just honest advice, I couldn’t recommend them enough.
constance, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Service and advice was and has always been excellent and most informative. The manager is a pleasure to do business with, giving full detailed explanation of any work to be carried out often accompanied by video where necessary. I've always felt in good hands at the Godstone branch.
Gerald, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Very happy. Thank you
Debbie, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Trustworthy & reliable. Always friendly.
Sherry, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Excellent service as always
S, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Bromley
The team always go the extra mile to provide a great service. Thank you
Bryan, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Fantastic team
raymond, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Always helpful and friendly. Trustworthy garage to use.
vaida, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
I was a bit late for my appointment but the guys were very understanding and with good humour. Did the MOT in time and made very helpful recommendations.
Dulu, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
I love that I can pick up and drop off at any time, I also found the website very user friendly. The digital receipt was clear and concise. Great service.
Wayne, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Mot tester most helpful and explained advisories clearly to put mind at rest. Thanks
david, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Staff at PTA Shirley are always friendly, courteous, and professional. They take great care with our family’s cars.
James, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Always friendly staff been going for years and I'm an older lady but always feel comfortable and if I need anything explaining they are great never feel ripped off.
Tracy, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Nothing to improve with my experience, very friendly and helpful. On time as well so I was able to still pick up kids from school.
Jonny, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Just prompt service and no prolonged waiting very efficient
Linda, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
I have used this same garage for about 9 years a nice it opened. I became friendly with the previous manager. And although he has left a few years now. I would always use this garage for MOT and service plus work I need done.
Norman, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
They explained everything to me.
Leanne, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Bromley
They have been looking after my cars for 20 years
Timothy, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Excellent personal attention and service
Christopher, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Honest and friendly service. No trying to upsell unnecessary additions to the interim service, which, as a new customer, was very much appreciated. I will be back for my MOT when due.
Jonathan, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
The gentlemen that dealt with us was very professional, friendly and efficient
Liy, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
The South Godstone team are outstanding!
Guy, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Booking was really easy, took my car in and they were super friendly and helpful. called me to let me know was ready for collection, everything was all done really fast and efficiently. Highly recommend
Alexandra, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Excellent service and I always trust the team to be honest about any work that needs to be done on the vehicle.
Peter, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Considering it was virtually Christmas, and most people were winding down for the holiday, PTA continued to be professional and sort out my mot issues perfectly.Thank you PTA...
Mark, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Good efficient friendly as usual
Tim, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Everyone pleasant and friendly and just got on with the work
Ian, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Always a good experience.
Jim, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
The whole team are polite, friendly, helpful and knowledgeable. Nothing is too much trouble and so it is always a pleasure dealing with any one of them. Best service I've known in my 50 years of any garage experience.
Jeremy, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Staff at Oxted PTA are always welcoming, cheerful and knowledgeable. Communication is very good.
Russell, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Always great service. Prompt, honest and communicate at every opportunity. I always know whats going on and they are always punctual.
Lee, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Always a first class service from the South Godstone team. A satisfied customer for 15+.
Henry, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Excellent service as ever from John & team
Simon, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
My go to garage honest and reliable. Helped me out a few times.
Always recommend to others.
James, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Always helpful and professional
SALLY, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Shirley
The staff are always super friendly and helpful
Liz, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Great service and friendly staff
Ray, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Very friendly and knowledgable staff, I was given very good advice about temporary puncture repair. The whole process of getting my MOT and service was very easy.
john, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
The lovely staff at PTA phoned twice, once to let us know our car was ready to collect and then a second time to let us know we could collect our keys from a local shop after the garage had closed if we couldn’t get there in time to collect our keys. So helpful.
Jane, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Excellent as always,
Especially John &simon
Richard, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
John and all the guys are always excellent
simon, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Very friendly and they give explanation of any issues
Anna, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Always a friendly and informative service provided.
Jamie, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
All the staff are very helpful and polite
Stuart, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Customer service is always amazing and they really take the time to go through everything and are extremely kind, understanding and helpful. After having bad experiences at other garages it is good to find a garage that you can really trust and that genuinely care about you and your car!
Alice, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
All around great garage and staff, at least the one I use, very professional place…
Chris, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Everything is great , I never take my car anywhere else.
Vince, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Very efficient and helpful
Nick, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
As great a service as ever
Simon, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Very lovely garage reliable good prices.I definitely come back there for further services.
Daniel, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
They helped me to get my car ready for the time I need it. Thanks
Mirko, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Good friendly service as normal. Helpful and efficient
Stephen, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Watton
Excellent service, quick and thorough
Linda, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Carry on as you are. I have no complaints
Stephen, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Staff are always friendly, polite and professional. If they say something needs replacing then I know it really does, and they are not looking for extra business
Margaret, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
John and the lads are very helpful and honest. 5 stars 😁😁
matthew, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Fantastic service, as always. Thank you for looking after my car.
Susan, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Motorstore Oxted
John and his team are the epitome of professional. So knowledgeable and efficient and the impeccable service levels are an example of how every business should be run! Car serviced throughly and quickly - returned door to door and even cleaned. 10/10.
Tim, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Excellent professional, friendly service
Stephen, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Family have used PTA garages Shirley for years, well trusted!
Samantha, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Lovely staff and always helpful and polite. Would recommend to any fellow female motorists.
Sarah, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
We booked our car in for an interim service and MOT and needed it back barring any problems encountered during MOT as quickly as possible. I was highly delighted when I received a call at 11 o'clock saying it was all done and ready to collect.
I cannot fault the customer service and their willingness to help, will definately continue to use PTA garages for all future repairs and service.
Robert, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Shirley
I been using this garage for over 25 years very friendly guy do anything for you wouldn’t go anywhere else
Carole, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
The guys go out of their way to help
Mark, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Very quick, professional and efficient.
Bruno, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
The staff were very friendly and the service was excellent!
Jo, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Been using PTA for many years. Always friendly helpful service.
MARTIN, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Please clarify brake fluid refill - what is that all about. How do i know if it needs doing? Otherwise fantastic same day local service was exactly what i was looking for.
Sudip, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Always a friendly and helpful.
Tim, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Have used PTA Bromley for years , trusted and reliable.
Eve, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Great honest service
People you can trust
Timothy, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Keys were able to be left the night before the service making it easier to drop car off.
Daryl, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
They are always honest and friendly.
Adam, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Great friendly service you can trust and good price.
Jeannette, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
The team always go the extra mile to provide a great service. Thank you
Bryan, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Always friendly staff been going for years and I'm an older lady but always feel comfortable and if I need anything explaining they are great never feel ripped off.
Tracy, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
They have been looking after my cars for 20 years
Timothy, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Honest and friendly service. No trying to upsell unnecessary additions to the interim service, which, as a new customer, was very much appreciated. I will be back for my MOT when due.
Jonathan, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Great service and friendly staff
Ray, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Very friendly and knowledgable staff, I was given very good advice about temporary puncture repair. The whole process of getting my MOT and service was very easy.
john, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Bought 3 new tyres at good price. Wanted rear wheels moved to the front which was done.
Avril, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Excellent customer service (Debby).
Prompt on timings.
They get the job done and do what they say they are going to do.
Very trustworthy!
sam, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
The people at Bromley are so friendly and very helpful. I trust them completely and that is very important to me.
Jackie, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Prompt and efficient service
jayne, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Bromley
Excellent service will definitely use next MOT. Thank you.
Martin, PTA Garage Services Bromley
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Top drawer as always
Richard, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
I asked for the car to be ready by 2pm and it was ready for collection well before that which was very helpful
Nicola, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Always a good reliable service
Erin, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Service was great, staff extremely helpful. I normally go to the oxted PTA but I will now attend Edenbridge as closer to my home. I waited whilst my MOT was done, very efficient and friendly staff.
Stacey, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Excellent service
Clair, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Very friendly and efficient staff.
Nicholas, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Sean and his team are always friendly, efficient and HONEST
paul, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Everything was excellent. Great team
Andrew, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Excellent service as usual. Really helpful & always willing to advise on things. Thoroughly recommend.
David, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Very happy. Thank you
Debbie, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
I was a bit late for my appointment but the guys were very understanding and with good humour. Did the MOT in time and made very helpful recommendations.
Dulu, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Booking was really easy, took my car in and they were super friendly and helpful. called me to let me know was ready for collection, everything was all done really fast and efficiently. Highly recommend
Alexandra, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Good efficient friendly as usual
Tim, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
All the staff are very helpful and polite
Stuart, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
We booked our car in for an interim service and MOT and needed it back barring any problems encountered during MOT as quickly as possible. I was highly delighted when I received a call at 11 o'clock saying it was all done and ready to collect.
I cannot fault the customer service and their willingness to help, will definately continue to use PTA garages for all future repairs and service.
Robert, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Great service
I like being able to book on line too
Jackie, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Staff helpful and friendly
martin, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Friendly helpful and competent
John, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
We have been taking our vehicles there for a long time and have always experienced a professional and friendly bunch working there. I have no intention of going anywhere else.
NIGEL, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
Excellent service and friendly staff
Steve, PTA Garage Services Edenbridge
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Good communication and staff service helpful And professional great team at Folkestone
Mark, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Quick, efficient and very competitive pricing. Trustworthy and honest.
Raymond, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Very professional service. On arrival I was greeted with a smile and the receptionist gave me all the information I required without even asking and as promised she called me when car was ready for collection. Can’t ask for anymore. Thank you
paul, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
The lady on reception explained everything in full and kept me updated on the progress of my MOT and service.
Excellent as always!
STEPHEN, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Very friendly service and really helpful with a few questions that I had, thank you I will be using PTA for the next service.
John-Paul, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
The staff are really straight forward and helpful. They always recommend where you can take your car if they can’t fix the problem. I feel they genuinely want to do the best for you and have a good follow up service. I only ever go to Folkestone- a great bunch of friendly people who shine TEAM. ✊
Joseph, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
I am very pleased with the friendly, professional service I have received at PTA Folkestone, both at this year's MOT test and with work done in the past. The garage were good in carrying out a follow up check for me on an issue arising from this year's MOT test. PTA have been most satisfactory for me on both work done and pricing. I have given repeat custom here and have no reason for not recommending PTA Garage Services to others.
Laurence, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Easy to book car in on line,friendly staff and car always ready on time,and really helpful with advice.
claire, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Excellent service as always.
Susan, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Every time I come in everyone is very friendly and informative. Don't make me feel stupid and I never feel afraid to ask questions which they are very up front about. Never had a bad experience and car is always kept in good condition.
Isabel, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Always very professional, polite service.. Staff very friendly and helpful..
Marie Sandie, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
I've been to this branch for many years with different car's and all ways been treated with respect and met with friendly staff and explained plain and simple
Steven, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
It was very easy and convenient to book in for an MOT online. The customer service was very good, with great communication from the garage staff. The whole experience was simple and trouble free.
Robert, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Staff were really helpful ..
Jonathan, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Always helpful and friendly. Trustworthy garage to use.
vaida, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
I love that I can pick up and drop off at any time, I also found the website very user friendly. The digital receipt was clear and concise. Great service.
Wayne, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
I have used this same garage for about 9 years a nice it opened. I became friendly with the previous manager. And although he has left a few years now. I would always use this garage for MOT and service plus work I need done.
Norman, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
They explained everything to me.
Leanne, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Considering it was virtually Christmas, and most people were winding down for the holiday, PTA continued to be professional and sort out my mot issues perfectly.Thank you PTA...
Mark, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Folkestone
Always great service. Prompt, honest and communicate at every opportunity. I always know whats going on and they are always punctual.
Lee, PTA Garage Services Folkestone
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Always helpful, reliable and fair - so I will always keep coming back,
Andrew, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Very friendly and efficient staff.
David, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Excellent service and price as usual, plus the fact PTA at Hopcroft is very close and convenient to us.
David, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Very good service as usual
David, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
The staff at Hopcroft are always very friendly and helpful, that in itself is invaluable to any company
annie, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Trustworthy & reliable. Always friendly.
Sherry, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Very efficient and helpful
Nick, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Ash and Tony were as usual very friendly and professional. Thanks guys.
martin, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Always a great service and good price, and also close to my home
David, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA has always been very helpful and polite. They are my local garage. They always offer me a drink while I am waiting. Couldn't ask for a better service.
Rosina, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Everything went on time. While waiting for the work to be done I was offered a drink. All was perfect.
Mark, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Efficient, friendly and informative.
Stuart, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
As usual Ash and the team were spot on. I dropped the car off and as expected the car needed new pads at the front as well as the service and mot. Ash still communicated this to me via a text. 10 out of 10 for the team.
martin, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Appreciated not feeling like work was suggested unnecessarily, as a female customer this is important (as has happened to me elsewhere before). Helpful explanation of the advisory notes. Really positive experience
Teresa, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Ashley and the rest of the team are great!
Isabel, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Trustworthy, reliable & friendly
Sherry, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
Ashley on the front counter always goes the extra mile and is extremely thoughtful and helpful
Simon, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
I was very happy with the service provided. I asked if I should wait or go as I live locally and thankfully they were able to get my MOT started right away. I waited roughly 50 minutes which I thought was very good and the offer of a coffee was a nice touch.
Daniel, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
The team at Hopcroft/Bicester provide excellent customer service and my car always drives so much better after they have serviced it ! Many thanks to Ashley and his colleagues for a job always done properly - I highly recommend them !
Rev'd Alan Wright The Rectory 29 Enstone Road Westcote Barton OX7 7AA
ALAN, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
The front of house person, Ashley, is really friendly, accommodating to fitting in alongside my work, and always willing to find the right price for the work that needs doing on our vehicles. There's good wifi in reception, so I can work there while the vehicle is being attended to.
Andy, PTA Garage Services Hopcroft / Bicester
PTA Motorstore Oxted
As usual the staff very helpful and friendly also explained everything in detail
Stephen, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
As a long term returning customer to the Oxted branch i am always happy with the team here, efficient, helpful and above all honest in their approach and pricing of any work on any car i have had work done on here. the Oxted team are an asset to the PTA brand
Andrew, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
The staff at PTA Oxted are really friendly and helpful going above and beyond! They are extremely efficient and accommodating! I have moved away but still travel to use PTA Oxted!
Samantha, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Always reliable.
Robert, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Staff are always friendly and super helpful.
Rhys, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Always amazing. Friendly, helpful and knowledgable.
Sarah, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Very prompt and pleasant experience
Christopher, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Friendly helpful
Alan, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Always a pleasure
STUART, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Always a pleasure
STUART, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Very friendly and quick
Jeanne, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Again, very good service and very helpful and friendly staff.No problem too much and will go out of there way to help.
Stephen, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Love PTA Oxted. Always friendly always helpful. Tell you if additional work needs doing and how much it is likely to be.
Won't go anywhere else.
HELENA, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Friendly and efficient as always
Patricia, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Local asset , keep doing what you are doing , because you do it very well , excellent helpful friendly staff. well done
James, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Great service and really helpful friendly guys. Not much you could improve on to be honest
Allison, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
The service at this garage is always second to none. They go out of their way to be helpful and sort any problems out.
Laura, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
I have always found the guys at Oxted very helpful and I have the sense that they talk to me honestly about my car, which is important.
John, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Friendly staff and pricing good
Tina, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Motorstore Oxted
Very friendly service and my car was ready a couple of hours before it was meant to be. I always feel like the prices are very reasonable as well and I'm not being mugged off at all like some other garages.
Matthew, PTA Motorstore Oxted
PTA Garage Services Shirley
All of the staff are so helpful and honest. It's why I choose to travel to PTA Shirley when I live right near PTA Bromley. The service is far better.
Pippa, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA has always been a fantastic garage. Great prices, great service! Highly recommend!
Samantha, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Always great service and reasonable prices.
Samantha, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Great customer service and I felt that my custom was appreciated. Would use again.
Stephen, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Always a good friendly service
Neil, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Wouldn’t go anywhere else, family have been using them for years. Always trust what they are say and never feel like you are being ripped off. Always excellent service from them, thank you!
Samantha, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Very friendly staff and brilliant service.
Clare, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Everything. Brilliant customer service.
Michelle, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Efficient & friendly
James, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
I am suprised everytime I go here at how very honest and trustworthy this garage is, I don't think I would take my car anywhere else
Daniel, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
We have been using your garage for over 25 years we wouldn’t go anywhere else
Jeffery, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Always get work done promptly, always very friendly and accommodating. They also don't over charge and try to do work that doesn't need doing which I really appreciate. They have helped me several times over several years and I trust them to do good work for a fair price.
Dawn, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Just always find you very friendly and helpful.
Sheila, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
You can't improve on a quality garage, I wouldn't go anywhere else.
Richard, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Very pleased with the service and advice offered
angela, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Polite helpful explained everything well. Accommodating to drop off night before. Very satisfied with service given.
LUCY, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Very helpful
David, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
No improvement necessary - it’s perfect!
Graham, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Staff at PTA Shirley are always friendly, courteous, and professional. They take great care with our family’s cars.
James, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services Shirley
Just prompt service and no prolonged waiting very efficient
Linda, PTA Garage Services Shirley
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
I live a few miles from South Godstone and public transport is not frequent, so I was vey grateful that John made arrangements so that I didn't have to wait around for a couple of hours or more. Thank you, John, and thanks to Tony, and to the guys ho did the work.
Margaret, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
I have been using PTA Garage Services in South Godstone for four years now and always happy with that service as even when they are really busy, which they are most of the time they still help out to fit me in where they can. Thank you
Emma, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Jon keeps me well informed with progress and is very helpful and friendly. The experience is always good. I wish other contractors I had to deal with in my normal profession were as good. A pleasure to deal. Thank you Jeff Banks. Ps - All my family use this Godstone PTA Garage.
jeff, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
The staff really friendly and helpful.
Timea, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
The team are always obliging and helpful.
Rowena, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Very helpful and great service
Tony, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
John and his team were extremely helpful as they always are whenever I use their services
Graham, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Excellent service from John and the team.. Nothing is too much trouble, even dropped me to work and popped the car back to me when the work was completed.. I have no hesitation in recommending PTA South Godstone to friends and family.. Friendly, reliable service and good value.. Many thanks again..
James, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Everything is explained really well.
Suzanne, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
The usual excellent service from John and his team.
Geoff, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Courteous, efficient, professional and accommodating. Couldn't be more helpful.
Peter, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Always friendly and helpful. All work carried out to a high standard and car cleaned inside and out which is much appreciated
Stephen, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Service and advice was and has always been excellent and most informative. The manager is a pleasure to do business with, giving full detailed explanation of any work to be carried out often accompanied by video where necessary. I've always felt in good hands at the Godstone branch.
Gerald, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Excellent service as always
S, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Fantastic team
raymond, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Mot tester most helpful and explained advisories clearly to put mind at rest. Thanks
david, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
The South Godstone team are outstanding!
Guy, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Always a first class service from the South Godstone team. A satisfied customer for 15+.
Henry, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Excellent service as ever from John & team
Simon, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services South Godstone
Excellent as always,
Especially John &simon
Richard, PTA Garage Services South Godstone
PTA Garage Services Watton
Nothing, excellent service. Will be returning for a service on my car and van.
COLIN, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Friendly, polite, helpful and efficient.
Over the years I have always tried to avoid garages preferring mobile mechanics. When my latest mobile guy retired I tried PTA in Watton and they have been very good so far. The job is done well at a fair price so I intend to keep using them.
Phil, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Everyone is friendly, even though they are busy, great local business, love that I am able to book on line, I don't always have a signal to call at work or don't remember until I get home and then everywhere is closed for the day
Heather, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Excellent service, quick and thorough
Linda, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Reasonably priced, pleasant staff who are able to instil a feeling of trust in what they say.
Phil, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Very easy to book online and the staff were very friendly whilst the car was booked in and later picked up
Elizabeth, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Very helpful and friendly service
Kelly, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
I always feel like you put in the effort to find the problem and sort it, which so many other garages don't. The staff there are all brilliant and it is an extremely well run garage. I feel safe and relaxed bringing my vehicles there and I wouldn't want to take my cars anywhere else 😊
Emma, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Great service as always, friendly staff.
Tanya, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Thanks, PTA garage masters...you are the best... See you next time..
Dainius, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Excellent service as always
Adrian, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Been going to this site for 6/7 years and they are the most honest most helpful group I have ever been to
Mark, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Friendly staff, quick service, kept me informed
Heather, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Great service
Jody, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
They are polite, friendly and the communication is excellent
Jeanette, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Usual good service!
David, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Always happy with the service I have received and pricing is competitive
Philip, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
KEEP UP THE GOOD SEVICE YOU PROVIDE
JOHN, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Always helpful when I have a question about my vehicle and any repairs required.
Susan, PTA Garage Services Watton
PTA Garage Services Watton
Staff were polite and friendly, premises and work area clean and tidy which is always a good thing
